Wist

So seen a few folk chatting about getting this new game World War Z, its pegging itself as L4D reborn, revamped like blah blah. Thought I would check out some of my go-to reviewers to see how it stood up
Now, if you dont know the Worth a Buy reviews, or are familiar with Mac as a reviewer then ill sum up his style as, honest, balanced, accessible and funny. Where some reviews are like quite structured and long winded and break everything down into sound, gameplay, graphics, multiplayer and so on, WAB videos end with basically, is this game worth your money or not. Watching his review of World War Z kind of confirms what I thought it might be. Just wanted to warn my fellow gamers against dropping their money on a product that seems uninspired and boring. 
 
 

boys who thought they were mad popular and had 15 notifications line up

boys who thought they were mad popular and had 15 notifications line up

boys who thought they were mad popular and had 15 notifications line up

boys who thought they were mad popular and had 15 notifications line up

boys who thought they were mad popular and had 15 notifications line up

boys who thought they were mad popular and had 15 notifications line up

boys who thought they were mad popular and had 15 notifications line up

Happy to run a geoguessr night.

Happy to run a geoguessr night.

Happy to run a geoguessr night.

I think the main problem here (as others have said) is more the lack of a unifying entity for the community to engage rather than the admin team. I absolutely agree that there are things the current team could do better (e.g. more communication, more mod powers (what is the benefit of not allowing mods powers like approving forum posts or moving people in teamspeak? These are pretty basic powers and if someone's a mod they should be trustworthy enough to use them)), but I don't think shifting around the team will do much - surely if somebody had an idea for how to move the community forward they would have made a post about it, no?
This being said, I think bringing events back would be beneficial - servers tend to require long term commitments for sustainability and often revolve around a group of people within the community joining at once to create a core population that will actually incentivise other people to join. Events are not like this, you only have to give up a night or two and its an easy way to integrate members across the subgroups that exist. In addition, it perhaps has potential to gauge community interest in a particular game or gamemode, if people didn't find a surf/minigames/gmod/etc. event fun, it's unlikely to work as a server. I would like to clarify, however, that these should be EVENTS not server openings - they should offer the opportunity to play things that aren't usually/commonly available within OB (full sized tournaments, CTF games, 1v1s/2v2s against large numbers of people, and so on...).
As a side note to this, perhaps it would be worth trying cross community events again? The last one basically flopped because everyone was on holiday while it was running but I reckon it might be worth a fair chance (In fairness, I don't know whether other members would be interested in that sort of event, so you would need to check interest first)
 
Mintlou, I think you made some good points and sparked a good discussion, but I would perhaps split your objectives - if people don't like you they're unlikely to have a productive conversation about the issues you have with the admin team if they think that agreeing with you will allow you leadership; some people may want to change the team but not want you as owner, so not seperating these categories causes unrepresentative arguements. I would have perhaps created this thread initially with a disconnect from you - "this vote is just to see if people are happy with the admins, not whether they want me as the owner etc." and then based on the replies, moved forward with "I think I could be a good candidate..." because I'm assuming the original post wasn't entirely self-interested?
 
Admins, I think a large part of the problem is due to the lack of communication and direction you seem to have. A stagnant/unfruitful state of development would be acceptable if we could see what work you were trying to do and it was apparent that nobody (including all members of the community) had any useable ideas. Maybe returning monthly updates would work? I understand that there may be nothing of substance to discuss in these posts (although at the moment, the stage that the FiveM server is at would be great to talk about) but I would honestly prefer a copypasta "Hey guys, we're currently just moderating, but any ideas you have for... would be greatly appreciated" to at least acknowledge the community (although if regular events came back, maybe these posts could promote them? Perhaps would be thought of a useless/spammy, idk). I also feel personally that I'm not sure what your goal is with the servers, I've heard talk about trying to build community size from some people, but a DayZ server does nothing to achieve that. Are the servers primary focus to satisfy the existing community or bring in new people?
As for the claims of admin's comments, its one word against another so I can't really argue either way
 
 
Also ngl this triggered me a bit when Mintlou was just talking about judging the argument, not him.
 
"But Eagle, you just said 'surely if somebody had an idea for how to move the community forward they would have made a post about it, no?' and then proceeded to give an idea on how to move the community forward!!!1!1!"
Yes, but I hadn't given much thought on community progression until the creation of this thread (which doesn't validate arguing for changing of an admin team as you can spur discussion by just creating a thread asking "how should we improve...")
 
 
EDIT: Started writing this earlier in the day then forgot about it so didn't see Mintlou's newest post, he summarised things pretty well but will leave this here as I think I made a few new points.

@Eagle
@Wist

don't unless you have a reason to
win10 is literally malware and the fact win 7 won''t be receiving updates anymore isn't an issue

nice forums doesnt work properly.
 
also back in the day when people were mod/admin and they didnt find motivation to do anything or having busy schedule for work etc. They lay down their role and give it to someone else who has got the time. Like i told conor i dont give a shit abouth whats happening atm cause i dont care anymore mostly. I am happy to join teamspeak and talk to the guys and play games. 
Gaming also changed a lot last years. People get older, new games come out and seriously no1 in here would play jailbreak for longer than a week. But yea if you are a Owner/admin or something and there isnt anything done last 6 months maybe its time for a change? or actually show something that we know you guys are working on. These threads always come up every half a year and its always the same. yea we working on this we working on that. 
 
Also @Frostie i really enjoy your post, i remember when you still talked shit few weeks ago abouth whats being done in outbreak. saying you dont care anymore and no1 is doing anything, yet you come here just to shit on mintlou. big ass hypocrite, saying conor funds the teamspeak so he cares. plenty times we said we want to fund aswell but you get no proper reaction back how to fund aswell.
 
Also big idea to have a fundraiser on the forums for the cost for the website and teamspeak? loads of other communities do this and we shared this idea months ago aswell, no proper response. 
i didnt really wanna make a post like i said cause i enjoy getting on teamspeak and just speak/game with my buddies.
but we all know mintlou is not the easiest person to deal with but i agree this time this motherfucker has points and nothing is being done last 6/8 months, reviving minigames or jb for the 10th time is not worth it. we all know it dies within 2 weeks. 

In light of how many flagrantly racist/homophobic/sexist soundboards there are of you, what now makes you a credible owner? 

In light of how many flagrantly racist/homophobic/sexist soundboards there are of you, what now makes you a credible owner? 

In light of how many flagrantly racist/homophobic/sexist soundboards there are of you, what now makes you a credible owner? 

In light of how many flagrantly racist/homophobic/sexist soundboards there are of you, what now makes you a credible owner? 

In light of how many flagrantly racist/homophobic/sexist soundboards there are of you, what now makes you a credible owner? 

In light of how many flagrantly racist/homophobic/sexist soundboards there are of you, what now makes you a credible owner? 

In light of how many flagrantly racist/homophobic/sexist soundboards there are of you, what now makes you a credible owner? 

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One time my mother called me a son of a bitch, so I hit her because no one talks trash about my mother, then I hit myself because no one hits my mother, she then hit me because no one hits her son and then hit herself because no one hits me, so I hit her because no one hits my mother. cant stop me