Wist
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Curious about when games are played, because I am available approx. never besides the weekend and randomly at night in the week
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On 10/01/2019 at 21:19, Liutvi Mestan said:i SHOOT PIGS
You look like a thumb with a gun
edit I had not seen Mintlou’s post
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DOGGA
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tl;dr: a siloed community will derail any project in the long-term
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I'm flattered people thought I was a good owner. Hats off to Conor, who I really just supported.
One thing OB HAS to solve is how siloed it's become. OGs in one channel, and I don't even know how many others groups hang around in the other channels. Is that my fault? Probably slightly, but I am less active than I've ever been now. No, it's not black and white OGs vs. the world, but this community is circles within circles. Conor had a fair point when he said people don't talk to him on the day-to-day from these posts. They had a point when they said, conversely, Conor didn't talk to them.
Why did it work in the old days? Coherency, for one thing: people played with more or less everyone, and OB had (and I'll say it again, as I have for the last year) a brand. OB Members were consistent: consistently good CSS players, good wardens, good Ts, good community members. They were almost all friends, too: at least without the immediate trolling. I think people have rightfully pointed out that when the mods felt obliged to police the community, people did care more about being inclusive. It meant they actually played together, and the community was exactly that: a community. And because we had a coherent community, it meant OB could and did take jailbreak dramatically more seriously, and more creatively, then most any other rival jailbreak community in existence. For two years, whenever we ventured onto Hellsgaming or any of the other JB communities, we always stole the show with our commanding. Thus, a virtuous circle.
How do you fix it? I know I'm sounding like I'm reeling off corporate bullshit here, but OB needs to produce a product again. Two parts to this: it has to be
- good
- marketable
Yes, I know this is obvious to everyone. But if it is going to be (1), it has to be consistently good, which means getting the community - yes, the real, whole community - to play it together. Break down the barriers, meet the new upstarts, or the old fogeys upstairs, whichever one you are. And if it's going to be (2), it actually has to have a realistic chance of success. Minecraft servers do not achieve this because unless they're massively innovative and set-up like Hypixel (which is, as far as I can tell, a multi-million dollar company) because Minecraft is not, to my memory, particularly conducive to people stumbling across it. Without VoIP, it's also very hard to actually give an OB-brand or touch to. Jailbreak's genius was that it was a game that revolved around characters. Our best wardens were good characters. Outbreak has, and still does have, a wealth of characters. People here are funny as hell. And they're funnier now than they've ever been, no doubt. Unless OB is hoping to transition to a soulless corporate machine like Hypixel, then it has to solve all these problems simultaneously:
- What will actually bring the whole community together? If the answer is genuinely nothing, then you've already got two+ communities.
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What gamemode is actually conducive to people stumbling across it? YouTube or Twitch help with this stuff, but there has to be some natural osmosis - e.g. a decent and reliable server browser that we can feasibly sit on top of, all day long.
- What game has sufficient controls and mechanics, as well as VoIP, such that OB can actually put some character into it?
If I'm sure of one thing, sustained contact builds community bridges. Gaffer and Mintlou hated each other. Five years on, and Mintlou will make an appearance at Gaffer's (send out the damn invites already) wedding.
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Today (tomorrow by a few minutes really) I leave home to move out. Not sure when I’ll next have a desk and internet so i respectfully request to return to veteran status until then
didn’t really get to say goodbye properly so much love to you all, will be reachable by phone I’m sure
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Only viable owner is someone technical. If you can run the servers, plugins, website, teamspeak and whatever else as well as Conor has, then maybe you're in with a shot. OB won't grow without servers, and you CANNOT be owner without the technical knowledge. Even if you have a hish0t, they'll end up running the place before you know it.
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chanel no 5
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Credit to @IrishChamp for being 95% of the effort going into making good posts on the forum to make people post. Thought some of us should try.
Always a difficult and interesting question: I'll start.
1 year: living in London, working full-time at my job. Probably tired and stressed (and poor). Hoping for a pay raise so I can eat properly. Should have completed my CISPA training and now be fully certified in cyber security.
5 years: Managing at my company. Hopefully long-term girlfriend, moved in together, but still in London I expect. Travelling for work regularly, possibly seconded out. Highly specialised in my field. I hope to still know OB, as at this point I will finally earn enough for a great gaming PC.
10 years: Married, I'd like kids around now (I'd be 32). My own place with my family. At this stage I don't expect to still be in London - I would seriously consider Canada or wherever my (wife?) wanted to go. Can't imagine I'd still game as much, but maybe the pull of full VR on my phone on the Central Line would be too strong. In no rush to see this, however.
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3 minutes ago, IrishChamp said:Give some reasoning u fuk.
KSI for sure. Logan is a white kid from Ohio and has definitely never fought anyone in his life.
10/10 keeping the thread going Irish
vodo or mrpolishman
happy birthday sony
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