I mean, I'm just gonna say it. This situation is blindly obvious, and I'm shocked that it gets discussed so frequently considering we actually have quite a lot of smart people in this community. Hopefully this will clear up the situation from how I see it. And TBH, this is mostly aimed towards the hardcore OG guys.
Many members and regulars (no, not solely the usual suspects) love to complain about one or several of the following things:
1) OB isn't growing.
2) OB isn't finding the right game so won't progress.
3) If OB is attempting to progress in a certain area/way - they will complain that it's wrong way of doing it.
4) The leadership is inadequate.
5) OB SHOULD NOT progress, because it's perfect the way it is with the old school member base and a teamspeak (???)
Many love to complain, but do nothing about it. And no, writing a 1,000 word post on the forums on this topic does not mean you are attempting to do something good for OB. As far as I can see (no offence to past and current mods) there are only about 5 people who have put a good amount of work into this community in the last 2-3 years - Wist, Unseen and Sir_Conor being 3 of those. I am not attempting to take the moral high ground, I've been guilty of this in the past - right now I don't really put any effort in, but I don't complain either. Watching from afar I've come to see it's such a dickish thing to do, these people (for free - and even out of their own pockets) put in mad hours into trying to spearhead new servers, set up new landing pages, transition to a free discord which represents teamspeak as closely as possible for you guys, and all you do is haul hate, lol.
The split in this community seems to me to be:
1) Those who will only ever go into the OG channel and no where else, and will - quite literally - refuse to play with other people in this community because they don't feel comfortable doing so - at an extreme end, some of you even have about 15+ members in this community blocked/muted. The former is a fairly low number, because there are a few guys who spend a lot of time in the OG channel but are regularly open to playing things like cs mixes, league gathers, pubg games etc with other people in the lower down channels. If you don't have to think twice, you know you're one of these.
2) Literally everybody else.
Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with this - you're free to talk to who you want. But it confuses me, there is no effort made with the extensive community at all. If this is the case, which it is, because there are some people who live in the OG channel that I haven't had a conversation with in like 2 years - why not just go to your own teamspeak? You aren't a fan of the new member base, you no longer like the games that OB attempts to try. Maybe you don't have to, but quite frankly, some of the stuff you guys say is pretty annoying. When I was quite high up in about a 1-2 years ago (in member terms) as in I was having long chats with Unseen/Conor about OB every day and hosting every other event - it was quite frankly pathetic seeing some of you post negative comments on here about things you were completely clueless about, about the effort that these people put in and the reasoning behind decisions that were made. I remember I actually used to laugh that some of you would post on member apps 'not sure who you are, would like to see you a bit more around before i give my +1' LMFAO. Of course you don't have a fucking clue who they are, the rest of us did because we actually played the servers with them, other games with them, or talked to them. Are they not integrated unless they go into that one channel? I remember that was actually a statement made by someone once.
But that moves on to communication - and here I will partially agree with you. The high council should and could be more communicative in decisions/plans/the state of OB. But TBH - what does Conor owe to you? It's like you think you're all part of some exclusive group, and you get annoyed if new, young people come along. Maybe that's changed - I don't really know how you welcome people in there anymore. If I do visit the OG channel I usually just mute myself within about 20 minutes, because it's just the same people making the same noises and jokes over and over again.
By all means continue doing what you're doing, complaining etc - but summarising this, thought I'd let you know that there's literally like 15-16 year olds who have messaged me in the past finding it bewildering with how some of you guys, 10 years their senior, act on teamspeak and comment on the forums. Discord hasn't gone ahead because of how much some of you raged and begged for it not to happen. Maybe you don't want OB to progress - and that's fine, but you need to see the other POV that some people do, we want more members, more servers. Maybe it's time to buy that teamspeak?
Anyway, feel free to bitch about me now amongst yourselves and this will probably seclude myself further from that channel. A new whatsapp group because you're scared of 'eyes'? Is this a year 6 playground or are we 20+ year old men? To quote Unseen 'no one gives a shit what is typed in there'
3 year rant build up over
Well if Conor is a... If Conor is a lion on it's last legs you're a fucking cub, who's got shot
- Brandon to Mintlou, 2018
You know on the Simpsons where Bart rings Moe dude.. you li- *inaudible goblin noises* eeer.. eeer..
- Brandon to Mintlou, 2018
It's not lost... it's just not winnable
- Brandon 2018
You can't even live in this country you fucking spastic... it's better than your old country with your old ruins... and your worldwar 2 bombs and.. i don't fuckin know
- Brandon to Ext1nct 2017
Paris as in like... the country?
- Brandon 2016
We've no control of anything... they're just making fun of us...
- Brandon 2017
That's the most hippocrip... hippocrippleton...
- Brandon 2017
Does anyone else here believe the queen... the queen's a reptilian?
- Brandon 2018
Honestly people like this... this is why we need a war
- Brandon to Absolute 2017
Why do people just call me retarded all the time?
- Brandon 2018
Not sure how this will plan out considering it's OB and most of you are fucking half wits, but lets give it a try.
Place in here all your best quotes ?
I'll get started...
Venga - "glad I wiped my arse after a very questionable fart"
Not sure how this will plan out considering it's OB and most of you are fucking half wits, but lets give it a try.
Place in here all your best quotes ?
I'll get started...
Venga - "glad I wiped my arse after a very questionable fart"
good thread, hard to imagine but will give it a go.
1 year - by this point I would be qualified, to some extent, as a plumber (recently changed college and my course as I decided uni wasn't for me). At college 2 days a week still and working the rest, hopefully with a plumber but I would settle elsewhere for the time being.
5 years - by this point I would be fully qualified and working full time somewhere, definitely not British Gas. Would've moved out for sure by now. (hmu here for plumbing issues)
10 years - now I would have some experience and would start looking at starting my own business, probably not yet but not far from here.
1 year: getting my own place/apartment, do more sports and maybe getting a cat.
5 years: buying my own house/apartment, having long-term girlfriend ( nice 1 wist ), new car/van. Travel to some cool places in the world. Australia and USA are def on my list.
10 years: kids dogs cats