Lewis

@Fluxy Not only does it increase public anxiety seeing more police in your area, but increased police presence attracts criminals for the potential assets it has. Less police, while arguably not beneficial either, at least doesn't advertise that crime in the area is of concern. Potential criminals perceive there to be someone/something in the area worth targeting. When you approach this topic, you need to think about cost/reward base. Although the reward can at times be higher in preventing crime, the cost of 10,000 police, all on £30,000 salaries, before you even get into the cost of resources supplying those people, is simply not worth as much as you'd like to think it is. Resources become wasted in areas that don't need them. Perhaps you misunderstood my statement as meaning we shouldn't be doing anything to tackle crime. That's not the case at all. The money dedicated to combating crime is much better spent in other areas. Things like street lighting, speed bumps, safety buses, CCTV cameras, community cleanups - these are things that help a lot more, things that can passively prevent crime without a policeman needing to be there in a modernising world. I'm sure I don't need to go and find the stats for you - but the amount of rapes that take place in pitch black VS the amount of rapes that take place in street lighted areas, you do the thinking. Rehabilitation programs, another big one - re offending rates of criminals are HUGE without rehabilitation. Why invest thousands for a policeman to keep telling off an imprisoning a man who'll never learn, when you could dedicate trained therapists/counsellors etc for 6 months to Burglary Bob which would significantly reduce his risk of reoffending? I'd be very surprised if the main principle for deterring crime your lecturers/readings have advocated is just pouring police onto the streets to stand around and look intimidating. Those PSCOs or w.e, and even volunteers, are perfect to do that job, you don't need a trained police officer to stand around. You need them in the office ready to respond to crimes, which there isn't really a demand for thousands more. I highly doubt there's times in the country where there has been no police officers available to respond to murders/rapes/armed robberies - sure they may take some time due to geographical area, but not simply because they can't. Fluxy, 10,000 police officers - perhaps he even wants more in the long run? Is 300 MILLION pounds JUST of salary a year, unless I've fucked my maths up at 1am. 300 MILLION, Fluxy. I argue that could do much more good in the long run, by investing in other crime deterrent areas. I'm sure we both agree that there needs to be more money invested into crime, I just think the money can be used for more long term, structural and psychological improvement factors, in comparison to throwing more police out there. If you fundamentally disagree, there's no point replying, that doesn't mean I've 'won' the argument, just there's not much more to discuss, unless of course you find something factually incorrect. @DannyS In all seriousness. The national HEALTH service is a bit different from Stacy and Chelsea getting their non compulsory hairdresser qualifications from lincoln university. IK u really wanna join in debate, and u use the GIFs to try and do that, but it doesn't often hide the stupidity, bro.

the nhs needs to go.

Just baiting around bro. I'm voting for green, only party that makes sense.

In all seriousness, labour: 1) I'm not a proponent of the fact that rich people who have worked to get into that position should have to pay for benefits scroungers, people who don't know what condoms are, the lazy, the idle. Frankly, this isn't the middle ages where you're born into CONSIDERABLE wealth for the duration of your life. Although that still happens on occasion, in a modern, capitalist world the SIGNIFICANT majority of people have worked hard to earn a high income for their family. A large part of Corbyn's manifesto is dedicated to taxation and increasing it. That's just a right wing-left wing fundamental divide, nothing wrong with that, millions believe either way. The rich have always been forced to pay more tax, something we deal with, but he's taking it to an extreme. As someone who hopes to have a high salary job in life, I oppose this. 2) Immigration - Doesn't want any cap on people coming into the country. Some middle eastern person with 10 kids, no problem, let's pay for them all! Hopefully something you agree on Mint, as a strong supporter of UKIP who's - arguably second - most important principle is restricting migrant imports. As the 3rd? most populous country in Europe, and as someone who worries about world population levels, I don't advocate a policy which could see 80-90 million people in the country in just a few decades. 3) Oppose tuition fee abolishment for obvious reasons. Think in the grand scheme of things about how this is going to be paid for. Increased tax. Sure, you get university free (even though you don't pay it back anyway most of the time) - now you have to spend 50 years of your life paying for others to go to uni, cool. 4) Oppose lowering the voting age to 16. Most 18-25 year olds are already clueless on politics, why would I want this? Labour thrives off its youth vote, the ONLY reason it wants 16-17 year olds to vote is for the easy votes, not thinking about political matters at all. As someone who could lean either way, I don't want a bunch of youth robots propelling a labour government in the future when it could possibly be the wrong choice. 5) Wants 10,000 more police on the streets. Again, something where the sub 100 IQ just instantly think GOOD IDEA. If you've researched into crime / criminal law in recent years you'd know that just shoving more police on the streets is actually a negligible deterrent for crime. Certainly not worth the money. 6) Lax on ISIS. Nty. It's fairly clear that Labour created this manifesto with no hopes to win, so just shoved in a bunch of awesomeness to try and gain support (how much of this will go through? Not a lot). If you'd studied political history in any detail you'd be aware this is a common tact, furthermore if you spoke to an ambivalent Corbyn in 20 years time he'd tell you this was certainly the case. I think the support he's received and the damaging reputation of May has been fairly unprecedented. Sooner or later he'll realise that implementing this garbage is gonna be difficult. There's no money tree for Corbyn Mintlou, vote for him and get disappointed by 2020 lad.

1) Were you alive during the 2010 election? 2) Who said I was voting for conservative?

I think May's decision to abstain from the TV debates was an excellent one, probably agreed upon by her advisers as being the best course of action. Either she goes to the debates and makes a fool of herself on national TV due to Corbyn's charisma, or she simply doesn't go. The former would obviously sway a lot more indecisive voters, or easily manipulated people. I don't think too many people's votes will alter just because she sent someone else to do the debate for her, if you alter your political vote purely based on the leader missing a debate, you're not really the kind of people the country should have voting. Corbyn clearly knows this too, hence his - almost desperation - to get her to come to one. Corbyn is like your Obama's and Clegg's of politics, they thrive off public chemistry. But it's kinda cringy how desperate he is to make himself look like a man of the people. Rolling down his window to talk to cyclists, accepting pringles off people and what not, things he clearly wouldn't do if it weren't for an election on a day to day basis. May is much more a politician of the past, your John Adams types, an intellectual who doesn't do well in the public light. Sad how times have changed, we should be voting for how they will do in office, and what they will do in office, not how they appear on TV and their personality. A lot of people will vote labour for those correct reasons, but it's just saddening that a large amount also choose to vote based on how the two are as an individual person. Probably two of the worst candidates we've had for a while, can't think there's too many people who will be ecstatic at who wins, based on how middle-grounded the majority of the UK electorate is. Bring back your Blair's and Camerons =[ tl;dr - May not going to the debates did her more good than harm anyway

You talk big mate, let's see you next tourney eh?

another 1 of them, what is this, 1850s New York?

Undefeated as Jax

gz on ur 100th post revan

Y ALWAYS THE NOVAS

wtf popey??

Didn't realise several altering opinion polls over the course of 2 days would alter your predictions so much Minty babe

#boycottblyss

Ricardo, since the moment I was miraculously blessed with your presence on these forums I've seen little from you beyond how CS is a dead game one week, and then you rocking 60 hours in the next

That's 'Sir' Roger Moore to you, young man.

Thread title: Outbreak counter terrorism force this is why ur in the weirdo section ffs

Navy Attack: Sony, Absolute, Rhyse, Pepe, Danny S, Unseen, Vengence, Frostie (Basically all the suspected gays) Command Control/Cyber Warfare/Intelligence Gathering: Cheesepuff, Mintlou, Conor, Jamie, Skeff, Raw Home Front/Guard/Production: Rachel, Kartoffel, Unicorn, Jak, Gaffer, Venga, Biggles, Major Chaos, Jaydog, Rory, Daffy Air-Force: Keiji, Brand0n, Irish, Extinct, Lupha, Sovman, Stiqqy (Basically all the weirdos) Pacifists/May have to be forced into conscription: Fluxy, Eraser, Chris Lord Marines/Front Line: Lewis, Weezy, Liutvi, Blyss, Mitch, Mike, Wist Could go beat ISIS by ourselves tbh boys

Honestly shocked if Labour don't win this election

I'm amazed at how you manage to comment on EVERY single thread which is of completely no relevance to you. Fitness thread - you'll find a way Consistent introduction threads/member apps where you've never even met the person - you'll find a way Runescape thread, Hearthstone thread, Battlegrounds thread - you'll find a way Event results threads you didn't play in - you'll find a way Every jailbreak suggestion thread - you'll find a way VENG YOU'VE NEVER EVEN TOUCHED ESEA/FACEIT/CEVO - STOP HUNTING TO OVERTAKE FLUX/TWIST POST COUNT

cya june 9th

He used to have love for this community and the forums lol, that is ridiculous.

no

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