Trigger Happy Mods

[gaffeR 1,380]

Whats with all the instant locking/deleting/moving threads these days...

The fun is practically being sapped out of the forums and if the mods do not like it then it doesn't stay.

[Jaydog! 179]

i cant tell if this is a complaint or a troll...

[M1nt-l0u 1,235]

It's a complaint.

I've made the same one for ages. The more attention this gets from the Veteran group, the more likely it is to be deleted.

Come on Daffy, WTF...

[Biggles 44]

I have noticed every thread veterans start commenting in get locked, whether or not they're derailed

[gaffeR 1,380]

It's not a troll, if mods don't like it then it's gets locked or moved, if it's against a mod it's gets locked, you haven't been around long enough to know the fun side of the forums jaydog, these days it's just about member apps or a thread about something serious. There's no fun anymore, I used to post videos of me and my dog, that wouldn't last 2 mins these days.

[Skeff 289]

I agree, I have noticed a lot of locking/deleting/moving of threads whereas in the past we would have waited 1 day and it would have died out anyway, so it just seems pointless.

[gaffeR 1,380]

Then you also get no replys, no 1 backing themselves up as to why it was removed. Then a thread like his comes up and just get ignored, speak to your community if you are going to moderate it!

[UnSeen 1,036]

Gonna drop my cents on this as (as Mintlou mentioned) it isn't the first time it's been complained about.

For a start I could understand your frustration for certain threads that were moved in the past and at one point I would say it was too strict (but this was quite a time ago now and it was with different staff members). The thread that has caused this topic to arise again today was moved by Daffy for reasons that he explained to me, and I can see his reasoning and it wasn't necessarily wrong at all - I went on to move it back and explain to him why it didn't need moving. He accepted this from me and quite frankly didn't need people to jump on him and bandwagon against him considering the issue has been resolved and he had no ill intentions at all.

Also, I would completely disagree with the statement that mods 'move stuff they dislike'. There is actually a lot less 'locking/moving' (things are rarely ever deleted as we prefer them to be moved into the spam in case of situations like this or in general to monitor who shit posts) than you would think and all of the stuff that is currently in the spam bin is justified in being there. There is actually very little which has anything to do with the veterans at all on the recent pages of the spam bin apart from Venga & Biggles' mod apps and the last complaint Mintlou made about this topic due to the spam responses it had to it.

Furthermore to your point about 'no fun on the forums' - I'm not trying to hate, but there actually has been an extreme lack of 'funny' content posted on the forums compared to 'back in the day', which is probably why when the content which is literally just aids/spam is moved (which isn't a lot) it seems like we're taking a significant chunk out of the 'fun'. Unless it was a video completely analysing Zeus' bollocks alone gaff, I would more than welcome some of the funny dog videos we used to enjoy lmao

I often check over what different people have moved etc and generally there aren't any issues, the mods aren't 'trigger happy' or 'against fun' - they just use their judgement the best they can and people do often make minor mistakes and do thing unnecessarily. Which is all that this situation was and Daffy accepts that, what he and I don't accept is all of you jumping on a bandwagon against him because of one mistake.

I want the forums to be a place for casual light discussion as much as you guys, but as someone who can actually see the logs and the threads in the spam bin - I can tell you now that you are wrong and we don't delete/lock/move anywhere near as much as you think we do. We also don't judge more harshly towards veterans or any specific group, we do our best to use our judgement equally across everyone (though some individuals make this far harder than it should have to be for mods).

tl;dr - I can understand why you would be upset about some topics but this complaint is an over-exaggeration and I wrote far too much in reply to it l0l.

[Fluxy 1,660]

these days it's just about member apps or a thread about something serious.

This.

I know what your saying Unseen but I can't help but feel that everything posted on the forums is so super serious now, these huge posts about stuff that is interesting granted, but it just does not make fun reading. Huge posts that dont really say much. Apart from that its intro threads galore all day. We lack threads with creativity, like would you rather, but thats gone a bit to shit now and always does.

I will say I feel that since Outbreak has gotten bigger and this is NOTHING against the current admin team, I think you all do a good job, that everything is far more strict in what you can and cant do. Stuff often gets deleted and you dont know why, people seem to care alot more on what you can and cant do. What might be offensive, whats considered "shit" posting. I know that rules need to be stricter now we have a larger player base because we cant just have people running wild and I ALSO understand that we as Vets shouldn't just get a free pass with stuff (I will hold up my hand and say some of the stuff has been bang out of order.) but I also kind of resent sometimes being treated like some one with a month old forum account. I'm all for equality but some people HAVE been here longer than others, much longer and it would be nice if we were a bit more able to keep that flair on the forums that we have always had and loved. Its what kept us coming back.

[Blyss 975]

I know what your saying Unseen but I can't help but feel that everything posted on the forums is so super serious now, these huge posts about stuff that is interesting granted, but it just does not make fun reading. Huge posts that dont really say much. Apart from that its intro threads galore all day. We lack threads with creativity, like would you rather, but thats gone a bit to shit now and always does.

I completely agree with you. I find the forums pretty boring at the moment. Every time I press the ''new posts'' button I just find some new intros, member apps or a thread with a huge wall of text that can either be completely pointless or kinda interesting but nothing more than that. The only exceptions are the aids threads that get moved to the spam bin or our discussions in the moderator section.

If I could show you the spam bin I would and I can almost guarantee that you wouldn't find a single thread there that isn't complete aids/pointless. Everything that is on the spam bin deserves to be there and I haven't seen anything funny being posted in a LONG time. So calling us ''trigger happy'' is a bit over the top and not the real problem of this situation. Like UnSeen said, we don't even move/lock that much stuff. We do it when we feel like we have to. I'm not saying that we never fucked up and did it too early or when we shouldn't have done it but shit happens and it got fixed right away.

If we want funny content on the forums we need to make it ourselves. We're not against it at all so don't worry about it getting moved/locked unless it's complete aids and/or turns into a shit post fest. THIS is the real problem.

Also, don't think we have anything against the Vets, I myself respect you guys a lot since you're a big part of this community and how it got so far and I'm sure the entire staff team feels the same way as me. We try to treat you as equals because that's the right thing to do but to be honest we're generally more leninant with the Vets than the regulars.It's not that I agree with it but it's just how it is.

I have noticed every thread veterans start commenting in get locked, whether or not they're derailed

Show me some threads that got locked right after the vets started to comment on it and I'll explain you why. It has nothing to do with the fact that you're vets. (I did try to find some but I really couldn't)

[UnSeen 1,036]

We lack threads with creativity, like would you rather, but thats gone a bit to shit now and always does.

I agree entirely that sometimes the forums can be boring and needs 'something more', but what I'm saying is the lack of creative or interesting threads isn't down to us deleting or moving them - it's down to the fact no one is making them. It isn't the admin team's job to babyfeed a forum with creativity, it's for the people of the forum to do that (and this isn't me saying go make a bunch of 'shitpost' threads, because we all know they aren't the quality threads we are referring to from the 'good old days', but actually think up some good interactive threads for us all).

In one aspect there is 'only member apps and other boring stuff', but there is actually another half to what is currently on the forums - and that is threads which qq and complain about things needlessly rather than actually contributing and doing something to help improve them (again, not hating against anyone or any group here - just people in general who recently have been complaining about all sorts of issues from community side to server side without ever having the intention of helping to improve anything.

I'm all for equality but some people HAVE been here longer than others, much longer and it would be nice if we were a bit more able to keep that flair on the forums that we have always had and loved.

I understand. Taking Jak's post as an example - if it was someone who had only just joined the forums, his post would be seriously out of the ordinary and probably moved no questions asked. However as it is Jak and he's been around a while, we appreciate his video and appreciate the humour behind it because it's someone we've grown to know. You know I like you all and I get on with you (like I get on with anyone who doesn't go knocking on doors), but I would flat out disagree that you are treated more harshly or even on the same level as a fresher - some of you are treated with far more leniency than would ever be expected to be given to anyone else. Whether that is right or wrong varies on the situation but...memes.

[Paradoxxx 15]

In another community I used to moderate there was this place we called "the blackhole" it was basicly off topi but barely moderated except for the blatant rule breaking ( porn, massive flaming, illegal stuff ). Maybe we should experiment with that in this forum aswell?

Basicly all the aids, spamm and shitposting the so called "veterans" want to do goes there and everyone is happy.

[SonyTwan 1,208]

In another community I used to moderate there was this place we called "the blackhole" it was basicly off topi but barely moderated except for the blatant rule breaking ( porn, massive flaming, illegal stuff ). Maybe we should experiment with that in this forum aswell?

Basicly all the aids, spamm and shitposting the so called "veterans" want to do goes there and everyone is happy.

Seems you forgot you can edit your previous post bro

"Basicly all the aids, spamm and shitposting the so called "veterans" want to do goes there and everyone is happy"

This post is very conceited for someone who barely interacts with the older members of the community and has hardly been around that long.

Bit presumptuous of you to insult people you have hardly had experience with.

Nonetheless, I think a spam-like section could be okay.

[Paradoxxx 15]

In another community I used to moderate there was this place we called "the blackhole" it was basicly off topi but barely moderated except for the blatant rule breaking ( porn, massive flaming, illegal stuff ). Maybe we should experiment with that in this forum aswell?

Basicly all the aids, spamm and shitposting the so called "veterans" want to do goes there and everyone is happy.

Seems you forgot you can edit your previous post bro

"Basicly all the aids, spamm and shitposting the so called "veterans" want to do goes there and everyone is happy"

This post is very conceited for someone who barely interacts with the older members of the community and has hardly been around that long.

Bit presumptuous of you to insult people you have hardly had experience with.

Nonetheless, I think a spam-like section could be okay.

The older members of this community being the OG crew cause I'll admit I don't interact with them, it's based on me not liking them so there's no need for me to have a forced interaction for the sake of interacting. I'm here for the people I like, not for the people I dislike.

The conceited part is just a sign of my frustration. The people that have been here longer feel too entitled for my taste. They seem to think that they are above the rest just because they have been here longer and I highly disagree. And it's not that you older folks admit it, but you act that way and it's a bit, well, cunty. The only thing the veterans here should feel entitled too is getting treated equally like the rest of the community.

[Major Chaos 53]

The conceited part is just a sign of my frustration. The people that have been here longer feel too entitled for my taste. They seem to think that they are above the rest just because they have been here longer and I highly disagree. And it's not that you older folks admit it, but you act that way and it's a bit, well, cunty. The only thing the veterans here should feel entitled too is getting treated equally like the rest of the community.

I hang around with these guys you speak of with such dis taste and I couldn't Disagree with what you are saying more. There was really No need to write that in the way you did and this post is already starting to go way off the original topic that I think Gaffer was trying to make. This is starting to turn into a hateful rant towards the Veterans which they really don't deserve as I am sure if you got to know them you may think differently. I am really starting to get sick of all this segregation between the different groups in OB and it really does need to stop as this is one of the main things that could put a rift within the community. Not everyone is going to like everyone but that is personal preference and I think broadcasting your opinions and judgements to people just because of the group tag they hold within the community is a very Immature way of expressing how you feel to be perfectly honest.