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I don't see what's to lol at. The prices are the same as Amazon so there is legit no reason why you wouldn't use it. Also, independents across the board are going extinct. Bookshops or not, that's not a recent thing. I still use them and I tell customers where to find them if I think they would be intrested. Independent dosent automatically = good. There are some good independent bookshops, there are in fact many in Edinburgh but there are also some terrible ones. I tend to view the terrible ones are more likely to go out of business that the good ones if I'm honest. I go to the same independents as my mum did when she was my age and there's plenty of them.

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I don't see what's to lol at. The prices are the same as Amazon so there is legit no reason why you wouldn't use it..

lol

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Recruit-Cherub- ... rds=CHERUB £5.24

https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-re ... 0340881538 £6.99

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jakes-Thing-Vin ... %27s+Thing £8.99

https://www.waterstones.com/book/jakes- ... 0099512172 £9.99

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Leaving-Berlin- ... ing+berlin £3.85

https://www.waterstones.com/book/leavin ... 1471137068 £5.99

and waterstones website is fucking wank so there's another reason to use amazon

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Just ordered 2 more books.

OFF AMAZON LMAO

Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace: The lengthy and complex work takes place in a North American dystopia, centering on a junior tennis academy and a nearby substance-abuse recovery center. The novel touches on many topics, including addiction and recovery, suicide, family relationships, entertainment and advertising, film theory, United States-Canada relations (as well as Quebec separatism), and tennis."

Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury: "The hauntingly prophetic classic novel set in a not-too-distant future where books are burned by a special task force of firemen"

Gotta love some good dystopian fiction.

Right now with my limited literary knowledge I'm looking at novels that are critically acclaimed/widely renowned.

There's not much risk, then I can further explore the genres, themes and authors I like out of interest.

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lol

Kindle Editions are even cheaper. There is no advantage to actually owning the book other than the needs and pretentiousness of the individual... "I love the smell of the books. When I'm done, I'll display this on my book shelf along with all the other ones because I Love watching paper deteriorate due to various environmental reasons. That's what gives the books their authenticity and patina, then I might just pick it up and read it again."

That is fucking sad and not needed. Get digital, music, film and mail has taken the switch, it's about time books did the same.

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Kindle Editions are even cheaper. There is no advantage to actually owning the book other than the needs and pretentiousness of the individual... "I love the smell of the books. When I'm done, I'll display this on my book shelf along with all the other ones because I Love watching paper deteriorate due to various environmental reasons. That's what gives the books their authenticity and patina, then I might just pick it up and read it again."

That is fucking sad and not needed. Get digital, music, film and mail has taken the switch, it's about time books did the same.

what if your kindle dies and there's a power cut?

"Ah, not to worry, I'll just read my kin-- nevermind"

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I'm just intrested as to what mintlou would say to the general distaste in kindles by authors themselves. Not boasting but a couple of weeks ago Alexander Mcall Smith came into the branch, my manager was in and he asked him where our kindle display had gone, my manager told him we had got rid of it since we don't stock them anymore. Mcall then says it's a good thing and the day books cease to exist is the day he stops writing novels. That's one example, I could certainly find more authors who are against them. Fact is, kindles are fine if you wanna read your latest James Paterson or lee child or whatever commercial garbage your into when your on the plane to you all inclusive holiday in Benidorm or whatever, but for those who actually care about reading it's pretty obvouis that kindles are killing the book industry. Amazon dosent give a fuck about readers, they give a fuck about money. Nobody can even get them to pay their fucking taxes despite they arguably have the largest turnover of any online retailer. They are heartless, soulless fucking bastards and if you think anything done by them can be good for the book industry your a fucking moron.

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I'm just intrested as to what mintlou would say to the general distaste in kindles by authors themselves. Not boasting but a couple of weeks ago Alexander Mcall Smith came into the branch, my manager was in and he asked him where our kindle display had gone, my manager told him we had got rid of it since we don't stock them anymore. Mcall then says it's a good thing and the day books cease to exist is the day he stops writing novels. That's one example, I could certainly find more authors who are against them. Fact is, kindles are fine if you wanna read your latest James Paterson or lee child or whatever commercial garbage your into when your on the plane to you all inclusive holiday in Benidorm or whatever, but for those who actually care about reading it's pretty obvouis that kindles are killing the book industry. Amazon dosent give a fuck about readers, they give a fuck about money. Nobody can even get them to pay their fucking taxes despite they arguably have the largest turnover of any online retailer. They are heartless, soulless fucking bastards and if you think anything done by them can be good for the book industry your a fucking moron.

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is this your way of admitting defeat?

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I am a big fan of the physical object as an entity and have an extensive book collection myself (mostly design and history, very little fiction) so I'm playing devils advocate here, but; if people enjoy reading on a digital device as much as they do a physical copy (or more so) why not let them?

As you know I collect old cameras and take photographs using film rather than using digital equipment, and there is a similar kind of war raging in that environment. There are still objective and tangible reasons to use film rather than digital for a number of applications within photography (I won't bore you unless you are interested) but those reasons are becoming less and less as digital technology develops. To use film nowadays you either need to be a specialist professional or a hobbyist with a very keen interest.

What are the tangible and objective reasons that books in a printed format are better than a digital equivalent? I understand nostalgia and "the feel", but besides personal taste why is one better than the other?

I'm going ignore the whole Amazon thing for now, that's clearly you just enjoying where you work and hearsay rather than there being any thoughts of substance.

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