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On 03/06/2018 at 22:32, Mintlou said:

I made this post in the mod section shortly before I stepped down. It was the reason I went in the end:

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My attitude about ideas very quickly went under the rug when senior staff members didn't even reply to this post addressing critical things about the mod position. Everyone had read it within the first day of it going up. Kai, I think you actually replied first on that one, followed by Cheespuff. Conor didn't, and it also took a while for Frostie to come in. 

I've lost count of the amount of times I've willingly asked to help this community with tech stuff. It is fair enough if my help was never wanted, but not fair to say I didn't try.

I was shocked by the outcome then, and utterly demoralised at any hope for this community if things carry on the way they do. 

 

I didn't give feedback on this particular topic as I wanted to see all the moderators who would actually reply and give feedback and for the most part Kai and Cheesepuff had already summed up everything for me. Anything else I wanted to discuss on in I waiting for the admin meeting where we went over it although beforehand in your 1on1 I discussed this with you...  

Also if I just promoted my friends I would of promoted cheesepuff ages go, I've discussed with you during your 1on1 What improvements I wanted to see from you but you stepped down beforehand. When you were mod you never once said you wanted to do x server or else you would've been given server tech access to do something.

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2 hours ago, VENGA BUS said:

Tbh a split is kinda natural at this point. Discord is just the nail in the coffin.

p much
cba socialising with a bunch of people around a different age who play different games when I already have a group of people I'm comfortable talking to every day
I go out of my way to socialise properly in real life idc if i'm not integrating with a gaming community
 

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@Sir_Conor

I wanted to hear your feedback. It affected us all and you were the only one who can actually make the changes. Waiting for your expected answer from the other mods is a lame excuse in my opinion. You ignored it for a good few weeks if I remember correctly, when it was clearly a post aimed for your direct response. 

 Also, don't make out it was just "that easy" to get tech abilities. I said I would help, I'm not sure why you associate that with straight up making a new server. I could have been a help with the forum upgrades, Teamspeak changes or any of the existing stuff. You are very selective about what you give people control of.  Cheesepuff isn't the best example to bring up because he's passive. He is openly comfortable with the level of access he's got. 

The two people who could be on your level have left Outbreak. Yes they had other commitments, but for sure UnSeen should have been the other owner of this community. Even after public voting for it you still didn't do it, he might not have wanted it either, but through the general consensus from the community around the time he would have stepped up to it. You have a problem of not trusting anyone else. You can't do everything, there comes a point where it just doesn't work. 

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On 03/06/2018 at 22:32, Mintlou said:

So what were you doing as a yellow admin that whole time? You had the greatest chance to so something out of anyone and you didn't, I don't remember you advising us to raise funds back then or tell us how deep this hole was.

Right.... Ok then.

I made this post in the mod section shortly before I stepped down. It was the reason I went in the end:

L3Txbxc.jpg

My attitude about ideas very quickly went under the rug when senior staff members didn't even reply to this post addressing critical things about the mod position. Everyone had read it within the first day of it going up. Kai, I think you actually replied first on that one, followed by Cheespuff. Conor didn't, and it also took a while for Frostie to come in. 

I've lost count of the amount of times I've willingly asked to help this community with tech stuff. It is fair enough if my help was never wanted, but not fair to say I didn't try.

I was shocked by the outcome then, and utterly demoralised at any hope for this community if things carry on the way they do. 

 

TLDR: I want the permissions of a senior mod whilst being a mod

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16 minutes ago, Veng3nce said:

Try justifying why he would need any of those permissions

The community ran just fine when mods were trusted to have those permissions. It's more about the feeling of being selected to be a mod, only to then by contrast feel so untrusted with needless restriction. As I've already mentioned, one person can't do everything so giving mods more tools to keep the community on track is never a bad idea. 

The role of "senior mod" should never have happened. It is pointless. Mod < Admin < Head Admin < Owner(s). It renders regular mods to moderating game servers only, when they can be trusted to do so much more than that, and if they can't, get them off the team. You have to give people a sense of belonging and trust to let them develop into better mods. 

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Moderator>smod>admin was a decent setup when we had a game server. We don't now and haven't had for a long time.. Smods were there to supervise lesser experienced moderators and ensure they didn't mess up too bad.

Now there is no point in having mods with next to no privileges, remove smod completely and just call them moderators.

Moderator>Admin>Owner

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41 minutes ago, SonyTwan said:

another great and insightful contribution from kid #135 ^

You have legit been spam posting I'm gay on every post I go onto and you are complaining about other peoples posts being shit? ? Nice one Manchild #142 

(nvm didnt even see kartoffels post xd the point still stands tho)

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