Toby. 34 Posted March 18, 2017 1 minute ago, SonyTwan said: Depends on your goals, what do you want to achieve? just to have a good physique, not really sure. 6 pack for sure, so core i guess, but also want good upper body Quote Share this post Link to post
Liutvi Mestan 606 Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) Hello @Toby., papa mestan answer to your cry for help would recommend going to a gym trainer or somebody you know to show you how to do the exercises before you start doing them, also youtube helps. WARM UP YOUR WHOLE BODY ESPECIALLY YOUR LITTLE BACK WORK YOUR FORM BEFORE YOU PUT HEAVY STACKS ON THE IRON STICK. Exercise Sets Reps Monday Exercise Sets Reps A Military press 5/3/1 (start off bigger reps for example 12/8/5) B Bench press 5 10 C Chins 5 10 D Curls 3 10 @@Triceps pushdowns 3 10 @@ Face pulls 3 10 @@ Curls 3 10 (@@) - optional, choose between doing one, two, or all (would recommend doing one monday and one thursday 2. Tuesday Exercise Sets Reps A Deadlift 5/3/1 (start off bigger reps for example 12/8/5) B Squat 5 10 C Ab wheel 5 10-20 3. Thursday Exercise Sets Reps A Bench press 5/3/1 (start off bigger reps for example 12/8/5) B Press 5 10 C DB rows 5 10 @@ Curls 3 10 @@ Triceps pushdowns 3 10 @@ Face pulls 3 10 (@@) - optional, choose between doing one, two, or all (would recommend doing one monday and one thursday 4 Friday(best day for big man) A Squat 5/3/1 (but do 5/10 cuz ur noob) B Deadlift 5 10 C Hanging leg raise 5 10 Why do dis men? it is very simple noob, when you lift heavier your muscles become bigger and yourself become stronger. Also your back gets big and you start to look more like a man. cardio is OK but wouldn't recommend to someone who is small, its a waste of time and energy. LIFT HEAVY OR GO HOME PIZDA. Edited March 19, 2017 by Liutvi Mestan 6 Fxden, VENGA BUS, ҉NuclearGamer and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post
Toby. 34 Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) @Liutvi Mestan That really helps, will definitely start using after my first few shifts at work. Might start out with like 2 days a week then up it to the 4 that you have given work outs for. Cheers Luit Edited March 19, 2017 by Toby. Quote Share this post Link to post
Cereal 165 Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, Toby. said: just to have a good physique, not really sure. 6 pack for sure, so core i guess, but also want good upper body When I joined my gym they gave me a full program on all the basic equipment, and asked me what I wanted and created a basic program like that. It might be the same if you join yours. I'm not sure you'll want to start out straight away with the heavy compound lifts (deadlift etc). I then started substituting the machines for free weights (shoulder press machine for OHP) which is how I did it, but idk about your gym so... not trying to undermine Liutvi's advice, he'll know a world more than me, just that I didn't feel very confident to begin with. Edited March 19, 2017 by Cereal Quote Share this post Link to post
Liutvi Mestan 606 Posted March 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Cereal said: I'm not sure you'll want to start out straight away with the heavy compound lifts (deadlift etc). I then started substituting the machines for free weights (shoulder press machine for OHP) which is how I did it, but idk about your gym so... machines are for bastards, use iron to work your core and form. 3-4 weeks to get you started and you're ready. @Toby. 2 days a week is a waste of time. also don't be shy and ask people to help, show you stuff and spot you. people at the Iron Temple are nicer than you'd expect especially big bois 2 Toby. and SonyTwan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post
Cereal 165 Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) Okay, so through advice, after following the Lyle McDonald Generic Bulking Program for a few months, I've decided to switch again to a PPL 6 day program (push, pull, legs), just because I felt like I wasn't going to the gym often enough and getting the correct volume, as well as not training my back enough. This program should help with that (hopefully). After a bit of searching I found this. The general idea is to have a push day where you're training your chest, triceps and shoulders, a pull day where you train your back and biceps, and a leg day. I adapted it to my abilities but didn't change it too much apart from substituting hammer curls for pull ups, and dumbbell incline for barbell incline bench press (all the barbell benches are always taken at my gym). I have been attempting deadlifts, but my form is really lacking, so I'm going to try and work on them separately on a really low weight <40kg, and hopefully end up incorporating them into Pull day, but for now I'm going to leave them. I also recently hit a 70kg squat and a 55kg bench (looking to get it to 60kg before June), and am going switching to 5 reps per set should increase my strength to build this up a little. I know these are baby weights, but I really feel like I'm getting into the swing of things, and enjoying weight training. I just wanted to post this here for any feedback/help. Thanks for reading. Edited April 20, 2017 by Cereal 1 SonyTwan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post
Liutvi Mestan 606 Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Cereal said: I have been attempting deadlifts, but my form is really lacking, so I'm going to try and work on them separately on a really low weight <40kg, and hopefully end up incorporating them into Pull day, but for now I'm going to leave them. I also recently hit a 70kg squat and a 55kg bench (looking to get it to 60kg before June) what are you ? faking pussy??? 5 kg to JUNE?? why is it 3x5?? and why the hell your bench press is 45? are you taking a shit in ate the gym for 45 minutes or smth? what in Christ name is that on day C?!?!? conclusion: this is faking shit program made from shit trainer to make you loose your time and take your money. KIDS STOP USING MACHINES PLEASE!! THE MORE WEIGHT YOU LIFT THE MORE STRENGTH YOU HAVE = MORE MUSCLE. Edited April 20, 2017 by Liutvi Mestan 2 iZac and Cereal reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post
Cereal 165 Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Liutvi Mestan said: what are you ? faking pussy??? 5 kg to JUNE?? why is it 3x5?? and why the hell your bench press is 45? are you taking a shit in ate the gym for 45 minutes or smth? what in Christ name is that on day C?!?!? conclusion: this is faking shit program made from shit trainer to make you loose your time and take your money. KIDS STOP USING MACHINES PLEASE!! THE MORE WEIGHT YOU LIFT THE MORE STRENGTH YOU HAVE = MORE MUSCLE. https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=149807833 Would you use 5x5 for my compound lifts? Edited April 20, 2017 by Cereal Quote Share this post Link to post
SonyTwan 1,208 Posted April 20, 2017 He's doing the main compounds so there's nothing wrong with using machines, just gotta get deadlifts down. What about them are you struggling with? Record yourself from the side during a set perhaps. I'd say the volume is adequate considering all the other exercises you're doing, be nice to get your deadlifts down to hit your hamstrings some more. Definitely do your face pulls, your shoulders will thank you, I've had some time off and due to a lack of back work my shoulders have started bothering me, so gonna head off tonight and get back into it. 1 Cereal reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post
҉NuclearGamer 92 Posted April 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Cereal said: Okay, so through advice, after following the Lyle McDonald Generic Bulking Program for a few months, I've decided to switch again to a PPL 6 day program (push, pull, legs), just because I felt like I wasn't going to the gym often enough and getting the correct volume, as well as not training my back enough. This program should help with that (hopefully). After a bit of searching I found this. The general idea is to have a push day where you're training your chest, triceps and shoulders, a pull day where you train your back and biceps, and a leg day. I adapted it to my abilities but didn't change it too much apart from substituting hammer curls for pull ups, and dumbbell incline for barbell incline bench press (all the barbell benches are always taken at my gym). I have been attempting deadlifts, but my form is really lacking, so I'm going to try and work on them separately on a really low weight <40kg, and hopefully end up incorporating them into Pull day, but for now I'm going to leave them. I also recently hit a 70kg squat and a 55kg bench (looking to get it to 60kg before June), and am going switching to 5 reps per set should increase my strength to build this up a little. I know these are baby weights, but I really feel like I'm getting into the swing of things, and enjoying weight training. I just wanted to post this here for any feedback/help. Thanks for reading. Don't train legs and not do cardio. having a set cardio day will increase your endurance. more endurance = more gym Quote Share this post Link to post
Cereal 165 Posted April 20, 2017 3 hours ago, SonyTwan said: He's doing the main compounds so there's nothing wrong with using machines, just gotta get deadlifts down. What about them are you struggling with? Record yourself from the side during a set perhaps. I struggle keeping my back neutral throughout the exercise, am I also told I'm lifting too much with the curve of my back to begin with (Making my spine not neutral) then lifting with my legs after. I'll try and get you video of my weedy self trying this next time I'm with a friend at the gym. 3 hours ago, ҉NuclearGamer said: Don't train legs and not do cardio. having a set cardio day will increase your endurance. more endurance = more gym I'm going to start swimming after my exams as well as hopefully joining the Rugby team in 6th form college. Quote Share this post Link to post
SonyTwan 1,208 Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cereal said: I struggle keeping my back neutral throughout the exercise, am I also told I'm lifting too much with the curve of my back to begin with (Making my spine not neutral) then lifting with my legs after. I'll try and get you video of my weedy self trying this next time I'm with a friend at the gym. I'm going to start swimming after my exams as well as hopefully joining the Rugby team in 6th form college. What really helped me with that is making sure you use your lats during the deadlift, imagine you're trying to bend the bar around your feet and pull it towards you, want the bar touching your legs during the entire lift. That and not starting with your hips too low. Then there's just the general stuff of keeping a tight core (take in more breath than you think you need), try and bring your chest out, etc. Edited April 20, 2017 by SonyTwan 2 Cereal and Liutvi Mestan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post
gaffeR 1,380 Posted April 21, 2017 Dads Body: 7:30 am - Cup of coffee 9:30 am - Foot Long subway or Bacon Sausage and Egg washed down with cappuccino 10:30 am - Small snack such as Subway cookies/mars bar 12:30 pm - Sausage, chips and gravy (feel free to sub sausage for pudding or a pie) 2:30 pm - Small snack such as Subway cookies/mars bar 4:30 pm - Pint of choice, personally atm im drinking Iron Maiden’s Trooper beer 5:00 pm - Iron Maiden’s Trooper beer 5:30 pm - Iron Maiden’s Trooper beer 6:00 pm - Iron Maiden’s Trooper beer 6:30 pm - Local take away, mine consists of Chinese, Kebab, Chiken Burger with Chips or a pizza washed down with a bottle a Tyske larger(large bottle) 7:00 pm - Another bottle on tyske 7:30 pm - Can of coke and sleep Wake up and repeat. If you can keep up with this in the early stages, sub out 1/2 of the meals for another bottle of beer and the Dad bod will come pretty soon. 9 iZac, Gunstar, rhyse1317 and 6 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post
Cereal 165 Posted May 7, 2017 @SonyTwan @Liutvi Mestan Yo I know my bar path isn't good and I keep pushing the bar too far from my lower legs. I only used 40kg because my form goes wonky if I go higher than 60kg. Please critique. 1 ҉NuclearGamer reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post
IrishChamp 641 Posted May 7, 2017 18 minutes ago, Cereal said: Thicccccc af 2 ҉NuclearGamer and Cereal reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post